The Armory

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:50 am

Babs wrote:The first one to find Hedgewigge in this list gets a cookie!
http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#guild-in ... scream&p=1

You can't link AJAX apps like that babs (sadly enough), bad blizz devs very bad blizz devs!

But annyway here you go:

xpolockx · Post by **xpolockx** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:52 am

jacen.at wrote: you don't need to upload your information there. as soon as you logout, your statistics are saved for the armory. but it usually takes some time (i guess around 24 hours) for your data to appear. you don't need any addon or any other user interaction for your data to appear there.

i hit level 58 somewhen 2 days ago and today turned 59 a few hours ago ... go figure.

No I didn't mean I had to do anything, I meant when I did a search for my character, either nothing comes up or the site throws an error.

That's what I meant by "load my character"

Babs · Post by **Babs** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:59 am

WyriHaximus wrote:
Babs wrote:The first one to find Hedgewigge in this list gets a cookie!
http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#guild-in ... scream&p=1
You can't link AJAX apps like that babs (sadly enough), bad blizz devs very bad blizz devs!

But annyway here you go:

That's even worse =\

Ceto · Post by **Ceto** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:01 am

WyriHaximus wrote:
Babs wrote:The first one to find Hedgewigge in this list gets a cookie!
http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#guild-in ... scream&p=1
You can't link AJAX apps like that babs (sadly enough), bad blizz devs very bad blizz devs!

Just remove the "?#" before guild-info.xml. The AJAX app sets an anchor just before it loads the new data. You can always remove the # symbol in the location bar to permalink the current page. (Usually the ? isn't there.) Good Blizz dev.s =)

There is also a link at the top of each page for copying the page URL.

Also, I agree with TheDeamon here. The Armory will show what gear you were wearing when you last logged out. Nearly ever night before I log my priest, I take of all my gear and suicide in front of the Aldor bank. My gear won't look very interesting via the Armory in that case. With CTProfiles I can create a static gear set for healing and DPS that I have direct control over.

Babs · Post by **Babs** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:08 am

Its more the spec that worries most ppl (including me).
Imagine: You as a priest are (semi-)shadow specced. Now you want to raid. Most guilds will say you need to be holy/disc. (I hate those dps classes saying, "then don't join that guild" but you need to roll healer to talk about that). I used to say I was Holy wit a few points into Shadow. Now they can look at my priest on that armory and WTF! The priest is shadowspecced! No way you're gonna raid with us...

Lahaie · Post by **Lahaie** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:16 pm

Babs wrote:The first one to find Hedgewigge in this list gets a cookie!
http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#guild-in ... scream&p=1

That link didn't bring anything up in FireFox, but does appear to work in IE7 and I was able to find Hedgewigge on page 7. IE7 has better Ajax support?

The EU version seems to work slightly better than the US version.

I did get errors digging down, and my browser froze solid and had to be restarted once, so I think the Blizzard folks have lots of work to do here. I could not get past a character name so far this morning without getting a generic error on the US site.

<img src='http://www.mysigspace.com/wrsig/40213141.jpg'>

DM. · Post by **DM.** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:18 pm

http://armory.wow-europe.com/guild-info ... scream&p=1

Remove the ?# from the link and it will work

Tartara · Post by **Tartara** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:36 pm

Babs wrote:The first one to find Hedgewigge in this list gets a cookie!
http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#guild-in ... scream&p=1

Here?

uigrad · Post by **uigrad** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:40 pm

Wow, I'm pretty stunned by this.

I always thought it was a shame Blizzard didn't make more information from the game available online. Now, I'm absolutely shocked they would put out this much information.

I don't think the privacy thing will be an issue. People are horrified by it now, because it's different than what we're used to, but before long, people will just expect it to be there, and attitudes will change.

Warcraftrealms usefulness will certainly be minimalized by this, but as long as Rollie thinks that it is worth keeping up, people will continue using it for character history and stats about realms. I'm saddened that people will now see my crappy armor, but I don't think people really complain, unless they decide to show playtimes.

I think the ajax use in this site is really impressive to say the least. I'm doing just a little bit of this at work, and would be very proud of any site that I made that worked this well. As a side note, the tab text appears to be missing in firefox 1.5 for linux, yet it seems to work correctly for me on windows with firefox 2.0.0.2.

Does anyone else find it silly that it shows which buffs you had when you logged out? I plan on finding the funniest possible buffs to have now. Maybe the "You smell stanky" debuff from Hellfire Peninsula might be my favorite.

I'm dissappointed that this doesn't come with an item database. I remember digging through the hierarchal item database in even online before, at times I couldn't play the game:
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/

Babs · Post by **Babs** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:44 pm

http://armory.wow-europe.com/character- ... eam&n=Babs

Character Data Awaiting Refresh

It seems like the character you are trying to view hasn't been active for a while. Since the Armory only tracks active characters, this character needs to have been active recently for detailed character data to show up.

uhh.. wtf!

guess less as 4 h ago is not recently anymore

Ceto · Post by **Ceto** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:47 pm

uigrad wrote:Warcraftrealms usefulness will certainly be minimalized by this, but as long as Rollie thinks that it is worth keeping up, people will continue using it for character history and stats about realms.

Really? I don't think it overlaps with Warcraft Realms much at all. Armory is all about arena rankings, equipped gear, talents, reputation, and guild rosters. Warcraft Realms is server population statistics, character guild and level history, and guild rosters. That's just one piece of overlap, and that one piece isn't the focus for either site.

DM. · Post by **DM.** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:03 pm

TheDeamon wrote:Warcraftrealms also has a profile listing capability.

Has yes... but I doubt we'll see that be implemented.

uigrad · Post by **uigrad** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:31 pm

Really? I don't think it overlaps with Warcraft Realms much at all. Armory is all about arena rankings, equipped gear, talents, reputation, and guild rosters.

Guild rosters is what I see as the large overlap. There's no way to see how advanced a guild has become. Generallly, the only way to know this is by seeing the Guild Progression sticky in each of the realm forums (on worldofwarcraft.com), or to check warcraft realms. Warcraft realms shows how many 70s a guild may have, and has basic information about what classes they have, or may need. Armory stats are guaranteed to be accurate for those numbers.

I really wonder if there is a way to " steal " armory information for tracking purposes. I'd like to track the top 300 teams for each battlegroup, for example, and chart how they rise and fall in the standings. Maybe I should start working on this.. hehe

Skyfire · Post by **Skyfire** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:35 pm

Actually, this pretty much kills "Killing Fields"/"BattleCensus", come to think of it. As has already been said, this will kill the thottbot/alla/wcr profiles, but, also as said before, ctprof will only take a minor hit.

As to the person who cited shadow priests: only stupid guilds do that. ;P The smart ones will take one for their "hybridness;" they can heal, but they can also put up debuffs like VE or that Shadow damage debuff. I know locks love that particular debuff.

Again, as I've already said, I doubt this will knock out wcr. What I would also (like whoever else said it) to see is an item database. That really would knock out thott, ala, and wowhead.

It would be nice to have blizz "census" data, but then, their policy has been to with-hold that information, sadly. Oh well.

We'll see how this ends up playing out.

xpolockx · Post by **xpolockx** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:23 pm

Skyfire wrote: As to the person who cited shadow priests: only stupid guilds do that. ;P The smart ones will take one for their "hybridness;" they can heal, but they can also put up debuffs like VE or that Shadow damage debuff. I know locks love that particular debuff.

For many of the hardmode dungeons and karazhan, a shadow priest is a dps spot, not a healing spot. Most shadow priests simply don't cut it trying to solo heal through some bosses in shadow labs or shattered halls. I'm not saying you should never have a shadow priest, as my guild regularly runs with one in karazhan. He just fills a dps spot and not a healing spot.

DM. · Post by **DM.** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:55 pm

I know several priests who swear by shadow and will only be shadow and will roll on any +dmg item that drops. And you know what? They can do ALOT of dmg but they can heal on the occasion if needed. Before the xpac came out a shadow priest and myself went through Scholo together. She tanked and I did my dps.... worked out very well and no wipes =)

Babs · Post by **Babs** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:59 am

Skyfire wrote: As to the person who cited shadow priests: only stupid guilds do that. ;P The smart ones will take one for their "hybridness;" they can heal, but they can also put up debuffs like VE or that Shadow damage debuff. I know locks love that particular debuff.

reroll priest and try finding a raiding guild while shadowspecced.
Now with TBC you really need to be specced well. I have heared Warriors getting 2 shotted because they didn't where Prot spec in Heroic dungeons. As a shadowpriest you can't hold up the healing, and at the end you will run oom just because you have to little healing talents, while the mob isn't ever near dead.