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What date will we get accuarte numbers?
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:43 pm
by Guest
I was wondering when will the 30day purge be up? I notice some relms missing 1000's of characters? So Im not sure how accurate the numbers are?
Thank You
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:04 pm
by Rollie
What do you mean? What realms are missing 1000's of characters and what makes you think that?
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:25 pm
by Guest
I seen a post in one of your threads that said you did a data purge and it would take 30days to get correct numbers. Look at Destromath they lost 1000's of Alliance and some Horde characters unless most the server quit?
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:23 pm
by Alanthus
Hmmm, actually the numbers should be getting better and better right now.
What was happening before was that characters stored locally on people's census plugin continued to be submitted as active/seen essentially forever even if they had not been played for months since people didn't purge their local data. Now there is nothing wrong with keeping those local numbers but they gave an inflated number of characters on the servers.
Last patch Blizzard finally added date/time and Rollie jumped at the chance of course and added timestamps for everything collected. This means that characters that haven't been logged on for 30 day will simply no longer be displayed in the collected data (though character history etc. is still available).
That you have seen fluctuations for some servers already is because some contributors either stopped sending in data or more often that they purged their local data. I did this over a month ago which resulted in Bleeding Hollow apparently losing 5000 character 30 days later...
Now these characters were not active so the data showing before was inflated. With datestamps this kind of fluctuation won't happen as much since old characters will be treated as old characters and not shown.
In addition Blizzard added the ability to move to another server which also should have some impact on the numbers shown.
Also I know quite a few people that have gone back to DAOC and other games for now since they got tired of waiting for Blizzard to introduce PvP. Those characters will be idle but most likely the accounts are still active or easily activated again.
Now that the data will most likely be more stable it might be interesting for Rollie to look into showing number of characters on servers over time. I realize data will still look strange for servers with few data samples but quite a few servers should have decent data by now.
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:59 pm
by Guest
Thank You so much!
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:37 am
by Guest
Look at EU Ragnaros
it says there are 107 alliance
My friend has a guild on there with 38 members and its not listed, and he sure as hell doesn't have over a third of the allies in his guild
Sort it out
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:47 am
by Rollie
EU - Ragnaros came online 3 days ago. I have gotten 4 updates from that realm since it came online. All of which came on the 14th which is one day after the server came up.
From the census display page:
Only characters level 10 and up that have been seen in the past 30 days are included in this data.
Since there has only bee a few updates and the server is very new, it should not be surprising that there are so few characters above level 10.
From the FAQ:
My guild isn't listed! What's up with that?
Only data submitted to the site is listed. If there is no data for a specific guild, then that guild will not show up. If you would like to see your guild listed, you can help by submitting data from the Census UI Mod. Remember, only the top 50 guilds by member count are shown on the Census Display page, but all guilds entered can be found using the Guild Search page.
If you or your friend would like to help make the data more accurate for Ragnaros, then please use the Census tool and submit your own data.
That sorted out well enough for you?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:25 pm
by Alanthus
I would add this as a contributor of data to this site for quite a while:
This site is pretty much a cooperative effort, Rollie is doing a very good job keeping on top of the "backend" and a lot of people do contribute data, suggestions and the odd translation or code now and then but in the end, regardless of how much work Rollie puts in, it comes down to people contributing data regularly if we're going to have useful data from all servers
If you wish it to be otherwise feel free to have a chat with the president of Blizzard about supplying population statistics and logon details...