Gold Selling

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:22 pm

Is it me or are gold selling sites nuts since this month trying to get costumers? I got about 10 messages (in general channel), 2 mails and about 2 or 3 whispers each evening with this crap.

(Don't get me wrong, if you wanne buy gold ingame thats your thing, but just get lost with all the spam.)

Ceto · Post by **Ceto** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:44 pm

Yeah, it's been pretty heavy lately. I see at least one chat spam a night advertising powerleveling and gold, and my rogue got two in-game mails last time I logged on. Hopefully those 100k banned accounts will affect their business.

DM. · Post by **DM.** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:36 pm

Its mostly General chat spam at least once per hour on Silvermoon. They do this thing where they have one long phrase but at the beginning of the line they have a gold selling website.

I only got 1 whisper in the past few months, about gold selling. Seems like WoW is becoming so huge people are looking for alternate methods to gold farm since Blizz is cracking down on botting.

Such as the hacking that several popular websites have been through recently. Such as ui.worldofwar.net just a few days ago. In which they do what they can to get keyloggers on unsecure computers.

oiseaux · Post by **oiseaux** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:39 pm

Might seem strange, but since my name in game starts with an A I swear it makes me the first target to get spammed. They must do a /who and my name pops up each time, so I get hit with whispers. Now my hunter's name starts with an E and I have never seen anything on her.

I would think it be the same for those that start with Z, Y, X, or W. They probably get slammed as well.

DM. · Post by **DM.** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:05 pm

Now if they did a Census scan they would get everyone! Good thing they dont

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:38 pm

DM. wrote:Now if they did a Census scan they would get everyone! Good thing they dont

They problebly allready do so. Since I get half of my mails when I'm offline.

Something I hope for is that blizzard goes undercover buying gold from such sites and instanly banning the user that sends them the gold.

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:44 pm

Yep it's driving me mad lately, whispers, mails, local chat in towns, general chat... if people want to waste their money on gold they'll look for it, no need to spam us. Really wish Blizz would add an easy-report system instead of making me raise a ticket every single time...

Hybuir · Post by **Hybuir** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:35 am

Plus since they banned thousands of accounts, the prices have been 2X the normal amount...

not that I would know ... a .. friend .. told me

DM. · Post by **DM.** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:39 am

Yup they are higher. More people playing the game, more people want to get their riding skills and gear quickly from places like the AH, or from guilds that offer you to pay for your gear if it drops in during a raid. Plus the methods they take now to get into your account are risky ones, which requires them to basically take advantage of any loopholes that appear on a website quickly before they can get it patched. If they get a dozen or so per website hack then they in business.

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:42 am

DM. wrote:Yup they are higher. More people playing the game, more people want to get their riding skills and gear quickly from places like the AH, or from guilds that offer you to pay for your gear if it drops in during a raid. Plus the methods they take now to get into your account are risky ones, which requires them to basically take advantage of any loopholes that appear on a website quickly before they can get it patched. If they get a dozen or so per website hack then they in business.

Just wondering what kind of websites are you talking about?

Since the only website I know that has my wow login is the wow site it self

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Hybuir wrote:Plus since they banned thousands of accounts, the prices have been 2X the normal amount...

not that I would know ... a .. friend .. told me

You sound like you bought gold

. But you could just as easy checked the sites some time and and you did recently aswell with all the spam

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DM. · Post by **DM.** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:15 pm

When someone hacks into a website they will install some code which will then download a program to your computer which will monitor your keystrokes. Esp when it sees that WoW.exe is loaded into memory. It will then send this data of your keystrokes to some server which will then allow whoever it is to log into your account and take your stuff. You dont need to be registered with the website that got hacked into at all. You can simply be browsing the site looking for some data, such as quest info, or item info. While this program is being install on your computer without you knowing.

But obviously you should never use the same user id on any website as you do with your WoW account user name. This will just make things easier for them.

On Tuesday someone I met in game got their account hacked into for a second time. They were simply browsing ui.worldofwar.net a few days earlier. They first accessed the WoW Account Management website. Changed the password. Then logged into WoW, while the person was playing in AV with some friends and on Vent as well. The person just /afk'd out of AV. Flew to Gadget emptied out all the gold and items onto the neutral AH that was able to be sold, including all bank items. Logged into the other chars, and sold what could of been sold to an NPC. All the gold was mailed to other chars. Nothing was sharded, despite having a 300 Enchanting skill. Everything was sold to an NPC and the gold earned was mailed. All this was done in the span of 20mins. The including the trip from Ironforge to Gadget. All while this was happening the password was being reset and waiting for the e-mail confirmation that it was indeed reset. It took alot longer than normal for it to reset. So the gold sellers got the upper hand... And I was in the party all the time when the person was flying to Gadget, I only got a lvl 6 Alliance char on Silvermoon, and I just go on the Alliance side to talk to them instead of lvling. We tried talking to the person but they did not respond. We sent petitions to GM's but took 45mins before they responded. The other person in the party followed their every move. And the gold seller knew exactly what to do and where to go.... /sigh

oiseaux · Post by **oiseaux** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:03 pm

Just imagine how bad the keyloggers and spamming will be when ppl need to save over 5,000g for their epic flying mounts.

Then those people who hack will be getting a much more serious amount of gold from each account as well.

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:57 pm

DM. wrote:When someone hacks into a website they will install some code which will then download a program to your computer which will monitor your keystrokes. Esp when it sees that WoW.exe is loaded into memory. It will then send this data of your keystrokes to some server which will then allow whoever it is to log into your account and take your stuff. You dont need to be registered with the website that got hacked into at all. You can simply be browsing the site looking for some data, such as quest info, or item info. While this program is being install on your computer without you knowing.

But obviously you should never use the same user id on any website as you do with your WoW account user name. This will just make things easier for them.

On Tuesday someone I met in game got their account hacked into for a second time. They were simply browsing ui.worldofwar.net a few days earlier. They first accessed the WoW Account Management website. Changed the password. Then logged into WoW, while the person was playing in AV with some friends and on Vent as well. The person just /afk'd out of AV. Flew to Gadget emptied out all the gold and items onto the neutral AH that was able to be sold, including all bank items. Logged into the other chars, and sold what could of been sold to an NPC. All the gold was mailed to other chars. Nothing was sharded, despite having a 300 Enchanting skill. Everything was sold to an NPC and the gold earned was mailed. All this was done in the span of 20mins. The including the trip from Ironforge to Gadget. All while this was happening the password was being reset and waiting for the e-mail confirmation that it was indeed reset. It took alot longer than normal for it to reset. So the gold sellers got the upper hand... And I was in the party all the time when the person was flying to Gadget, I only got a lvl 6 Alliance char on Silvermoon, and I just go on the Alliance side to talk to them instead of lvling. We tried talking to the person but they did not respond. We sent petitions to GM's but took 45mins before they responded. The other person in the party followed their every move. And the gold seller knew exactly what to do and where to go.... /sigh

Thats just **** up. Did he get all of his stuff back or not?

IE exploid btw?

DM. · Post by **DM.** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:00 pm

Takes about a week for everything to be restored. And yes it was with IE6.

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:02 pm

DM. wrote:Takes about a week for everything to be restored. And yes it was with IE6.

Thats realy realy good imo, otherwise you realy letting your costumers down as a company. And that doesn't suprise me at all

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Forestlordx · Post by **Forestlordx** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:59 pm

I ignore them right off the bat to get rid of the spam

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:41 am

Forestlordx wrote:I ignore them right off the bat to get rid of the spam

Imo only usefull once since they use trial accounts and go offline within a few secconds after spamming.

I made a suggestion to the wow forums tho, maybe it helps: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.htm ... 20&sid=1#0

oiseaux · Post by **oiseaux** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:40 am

Gold spammers are NOT using trial accounts like most people believe. They make enough money to just buy real boxes so they can use the mail box and chat channels.

Trail accounts have a ton of restrictions on them because Blizzard was smart enough to know what would happen if they didn't.

http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowbill ... =abl01925p
The following restrictions are placed on all Trial Accounts:
* A level cap of 20.
* A maximum of 10 gold.
* Trade skills are capped at 100 ranks.
* Inability to trade via the auction house, mailbox, or player-to-player.
* In-game chat channels will be unavailable.
* A limit on the number of tells that can be sent.
* Realms with login queues will give priority to customers with retail accounts.
* Will not be eligible for the Paid Character Transfer service.

WyriHaximus · Post by **WyriHaximus** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:45 pm

oiseaux wrote:Gold spammers are NOT using trial accounts like most people believe. They make enough money to just buy real boxes so they can use the mail box and chat channels.

Trail accounts have a ton of restrictions on them because Blizzard was smart enough to know what would happen if they didn't.

http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowbill ... =abl01925p
The following restrictions are placed on all Trial Accounts:
* A level cap of 20.
* A maximum of 10 gold.
* Trade skills are capped at 100 ranks.
* Inability to trade via the auction house, mailbox, or player-to-player.
* In-game chat channels will be unavailable.
* A limit on the number of tells that can be sent.
* Realms with login queues will give priority to customers with retail accounts.
* Will not be eligible for the Paid Character Transfer service.

Erhm yes your right, forgot about that. Found it out the hardway on a friends LAN-party where he dead was using a trial account and couldn't use most things.
Edit1: (And now I can't find where I mentioned something about trial accounts

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Edit2: Found it now

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Edit3: Maybe I should have said that they make random usernames and that ignoring cause of that is just useless

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oiseaux · Post by **oiseaux** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:11 pm

WyriHaximus wrote: Edit3: Maybe I should have said that they make random usernames and that ignoring cause of that is just useless .

Yes. Ignoring them is useless.