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[Alanthus]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, my experience is based on the 10 or so servers I have friends on and also on DAOC and other games before that. Generally if you follow certain design archetypes people will fill them with roles based on that archetype, it doesn't really matter too much in WoW since it's a PvE game with solo and group based duelling thrown in and your primary enemy is others of your own faction anyway, but it will be interesting to see how future PvP oriented games will deal with this player bias.

[Yenx]

Well it's not like "Do you want to join the Horde rankings and become a powerful Undead mage, a firece and strong Tauren warrior, a swift Orc hunter or do you want to join the Alliance and be some kind of fairy?" is it? I mean Alliance are and look strong as well and don't forget that the first world kills of bosses (PvE but nevertheless) come always from the Alliance side.

[xpolockx]

It's just the usual kind of players that each side attracts. From the 7-8 servers I've played on, more younger, immature players are attracted to the alliance because of fantasy like Lord of the Rings and such (every server seems to have 80 Night Elves with variations of Legolas on it.) Not that immature players don't play both sides, of course.

As far as the first kills of bosses go, it just depends on server. Game wide the first 10 kills of bosses are usually 7 alliance guilds to 3 horde guilds or so... on my server, the alliance have never killed a boss before the horde have. There are plenty of arguments why this is (paladin endgame pve > shaman endgame pve, for example) but it really just comes down to player base and how hard people are going to work at it.

BG's are not really even comparable to PVE accomplishments anyway, as the faction that wins bg's more often is just more organized 99% of the time. Gear really doesn't have all that much to do with it... an organized group in blues/greens can beat an unorganized pug in purples any time.

And that's my 2 copper

[oiseaux]

BG's are not really even comparable to PVE accomplishments anyway, as the faction that wins bg's more often is just more organized 99% of the time. Gear really doesn't have all that much to do with it... an organized group in blues/greens can beat an unorganized pug in purples any time.

And that's my 2 copper

I am gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Horde have an unfair advantage in almost all of the BGs. I have seen whole threads on it where graveyards are located and the distance and terrain between points. So automatically the alliance have to be that much better than the horde.

Give them some ashkandi's and tier 2 and there is NO WAY that someone in greens/blues will win, EVER. With the amount of undead with wotf and orcs that cannot be stunned, it is no question that horde are favored in pvp. I really feel that shamans are unfair because they can heal AND put out insane amounts of damage at the same time. Paladins never seem to die and can last a long time, but do not put out the type of damage that shamans do. Chain Lightning 3 ppl for over 1k on each person is ridiculous which is getting buffed with the new patch. Grounding totem to divert all spells being casted towards them? Wow... Sorry but in this game gear is better than ALL skill.

You may get a nice crit or lucky kill but you can't beat a epic geared pug. They would have to be so incompetent, I would question how they managed to get their gear.

Notice that any guilds who say they are strictly PVP, always end up raiding because they cannot compete with the gear difference.

Didn't mean to be harsh, but I am bored at home right now before my eye appointment.

[xpolockx]

I am gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Horde have an unfair advantage in almost all of the BGs. I have seen whole threads on it where graveyards are located and the distance and terrain between points. So automatically the alliance have to be that much better than the horde.

I'd have to say all those threads are mostly nonsense. Most of them are just regarding AV, of which I've read an equal amount of threads on both sides of who has the advantage. I've also played AV on both sides, and I think it's basically even. There's nothing gamebreaking in AV terrain, period. AB has no particular tactical advantage whatsoever, since anyone can take any flag. WSG is a poorly designed BG as it is (as much as alliance on my server LOVE it, for reasons unknown), but I wouldn't say it gives an advantage to anyone but druids (which alliance tend to have more of anyway, but I digress.)

Give them some ashkandi's and tier 2 and there is NO WAY that someone in greens/blues will win, EVER. With the amount of undead with wotf and orcs that cannot be stunned, it is no question that horde are favored in pvp. I really feel that shamans are unfair because they can heal AND put out insane amounts of damage at the same time. Paladins never seem to die and can last a long time, but do not put out the type of damage that shamans do. Chain Lightning 3 ppl for over 1k on each person is ridiculous which is getting buffed with the new patch. Grounding totem to divert all spells being casted towards them? Wow... Sorry but in this game gear is better than ALL skill.

Gear > Skill. Organization + Skill > Gear. I've seen it. I've been in pugs where 8/10 horde players have at least full tier one, and an alliance permagroup with mostly blues rolled us (it was a sad day.) It's really all about teamwork, it trumps gear. Give a war with ashkandi vs. a war with an IBS who has a pally watching his back, and it's gg ashkandi warrior. It's just the way it is. Many alliance wars on my server have 1-2 dedicated priests/paladins in pvp. I've also been on the other side, where 11/15 alliance players have tier 1 set and my guild group in mostly blues beat them (it was a great day.) I will admit that shaman > pally in dmg, but pally support in pve > shaman support in pvp by a long shot. You can probably count on one hand the amount of shamans you'll see healing anyone but themselves in bgs. Only resto shamans tend to heal other people, and it's because resto shamans are most like pallies. You will never see 3 CL 1k crits out of them.

I guess I'm just saying that everyone is entitled to their opinion on things... I just honestly think from much experience playing both sides that the horde don't have it that much easier at pvp. Sure, elemental/enchancement shammies may have the advantage over paladins, and undead have wotf... neither of which personally turn the tide of an AV. I also don't think the alliance have it that much easier at pve, which is the horde version of the faction imbalance complaint. Sure, paladins are much better buffers in raids, and help a ton in cleansing the raid (while shamans can't do magic effects, so horde priests have to cleanse all magic effects), and dwarf priests have fear ward... but I don't see those as gamebreaking, either. IMO, it's pretty equal. Get the gear and the teamwork, and you've got it made

EDIT: grammar.

[snagssnag]

I think it's for sure a poor generalisation to state that Horde "generally" wins more often than Alliance in the Battlegrounds and the result will be just as mistaken as the former hypothesis. You *can't* just know what happens in every server, or even in the majority of them and, by the way, from my personal experience Alliance wins most of the times .

Having a look at Stumpytheozzie's and Alanthus' posts I can honestly say I am not in any way convinced that those are the reasons if Horde (generally) wins more often in BGs...

No offence meant .

does this site have any other use than talking to people because if not its near useless

[big_dady_kane]

How do i set up all my gear so when u click on me u can see my real lvl and real guild and real gear?